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Welcome to Designer Vs. Developer, a show that tries to solve the challenges faced in the industry by opening a conversation between the two, providing take aways, solutions to workflows, tools and discussions on everyday struggles.
Mustafa speaks to Nick Butcher, Design and Developer Advocate at Google, about motion design, prototyping and the three layers of material design.
In this episode:
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