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Welcome to Designer Vs Developer, a show that tries to solve the challenges faced in the industry by opening a conversation between the two, providing take aways, solutions to workflows, tools & discussions on everyday struggles.
This week Mustafa speaks to Mariko Kosaka, a Developer Advocate on the Google Developers Relations Team, about the art they creates with code and how developers can embrace the notion of making something that isn’t necessarily useful but allows still has value.
In this episode:
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