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Tock Core Notes 2022-05-06

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Tock Core Notes 2022-05-06

Attendees:

  • Hudson Ayers
  • Brad Campbell
  • Branden Ghena
  • Alyssa Haroldsen
  • Philip Levis
  • Amit Levy
  • Pat Pannuto
  • Alexandru Radovici
  • Leon Schuermann
  • Vadim Sukhomlinov
  • Johnathan Van Why

Updates

  • Leon: Rebased the Rust toolchain update PR (#2988, as the previous attempt at merging failed CI and has been waiting for some weeks. We should get that in reasonably quickly, to avoid collisions with other merged PRs.

  • Hudson: If I recall correctly, those changes are pretty innocuous.

  • Leon: Already had some approvals, shouldn't be a big deal.

elf2tab / Tockloader / cargo Pipeline Application Credentials Integration

  • Phil: moving this to an email discussion with Brad

TockWorld

  • Hudson: Talk about doing a TockWorld this year. People are somewhat able to travel again, can plan doing an in-person TockWorld at some university in the summer. We can talk about scheduling and location.

  • Amit: We might want to clarify what a TockWorld is for people who have not attended the previous ones.

    It's been a while since the last one. It comprises the people on this call and perhaps a few more, such as ones starting to be engaged.

    We have used it as a focal point for some important discussions. For instance, last time we have used it to focus on having a Tock 2.0 and which constraints should be integrated into the API.

    This time, there might be some different goals. The primary goal might be, given that Tock is growing, how to grow it in an organized way, not just shaped by those putting in the cycles in an ad-hoc way. Specifically how we can grow open source communities grown out of an academic project.

    Many people have not met in person, which is a change from previous time. We might want to invite interesting stakeholders which have not necessarily been actively engaged in Tock.

    A significant goal might be to develop a shared understanding in which directions the project should move, and as a result, what types of activities we should do as a community. Also, what type of governance would make sense going forward.

    We might have some more constraints this time given potentially two contributors would be arriving from Europe, and perhaps one from Australia.

  • Phil: I thought that the last TockWorld was really successful in part because we had some clear agenda items regarding the major questions and challenges to sort out. Meeting in person is a good high-bandwidth way to reach a consensus.

Personal details excluded from the meeting notes, location / date / topic planning notes sent via Email.

tock-dev Google Group Mailing List

  • Hudson: An issue (#60) was created on the tock-www repo stating that joining the tock-dev mailing list is not possible unless one provides a phone number to Google. This used to work, but it seems it no longer does.

  • Brad: Did anyone tell them about Slack?

  • Leon: I don't think Slack is any better than Google groups in terms of giving up information.

    Also, Google groups are pretty picky regarding spam filters, which is not great when you operate your own mail server.

  • Amit: It might be that we can solve this issue for this particular person, but this raises some reasonable concerns. Google Groups is easy to setup and manage, and it has a nice interface generally, but there are alternatives.

    Will respond to that issue.

  • Branden: It appears we can add individual people through their email address.

  • Leon: Will reach out to the person in question.