contrib/minutes/20260626.md
Date: June 26, 2026 Time: 14:28 UTC
podman.io mailing list (currently hosted on Mailman by the Red Hat Open Source Program Office [OSPO], not CNCF-owned).
docs.podman.io).crun and Podman Desktop as official sub-projects.Podman Dev channel for maintainer responses.community)community.community.podman.io and buildah.io websites, go.podman.io (used for Go vanity imports), and the image_build repository (which currently has an open pull request requiring review).netavark and aardvark-dns repositories prior to migration. Matthew Heon supported this to minimize administrative overhead. However, Paul Holzinger noted there is no immediate pressure to move them, and Brent explicitly expressed opposition to moving or merging them at this time. The decision on those specific repos was deferred.podman.io, buildah.io, go.podman.io, and image_build, including coordinating the necessary maintainer votes.| Owner | Action Item |
|---|---|
| Paul Holzinger | Conduct a comprehensive audit of all non-GitHub project assets. |
| Matthew Heon | Contact the CNCF to officially withdraw the unauthorized incubation application. |
| Core Maintainers | Post public comments on the open incubation GitHub issue to confirm the joint decision. |
| Matthew Heon | Upload the meeting transcript to the repository and share the issue link in Podman Dev. |
| Brent | Create the new community GitHub repository under organization settings. |
| Mohan Boddu | Populate the newly created community repository with governance and policy files. |
| Ashley Cui | Assist Mohan Boddu with population and review of the community repository. |
| Matthew Heon | Drive the migration and maintainer votes for podman.io, buildah.io, go.podman.io, and image_build. |
| Matthew Heon | Review all maintainer files across project repos and propose updates for inactive members. |
These minutes were generated by AI. A full transcript of the meeting is below.
Unrelated chatter at beginning of meeting has been trimmed for brevity
25 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:07.990 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Okay, sorry about that. I had to re-invite Brent. Hopefully he will join in the next couple minutes.
26 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:10.460 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): In the meantime, I think we can…
27 00:04:10.660 --> 00:04:16.930 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Probably get started with some of the, easier to deal with, matters on the agenda.
28 00:04:17.250 --> 00:04:26.900 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): So, first thing I would like to go over is a suggestion from Paul. How do we audit permissions outside of GitHub?
29 00:04:26.900 --> 00:04:39.410 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Including who has access to and control over the Podman mailing list, access to things like our blog, yeah. So, Paul, you wanna leave this one off?
30 00:04:42.830 --> 00:04:48.260 Paul Holzinger: Yeah, I don't… I don't have a proposal or anything, I think it's just something to be aware of, yes.
31 00:04:48.430 --> 00:04:50.310 Paul Holzinger: I don't know how many other…
32 00:04:50.990 --> 00:04:57.590 Paul Holzinger: third-party integrations or tools where there's different authentication and…
33 00:04:58.200 --> 00:05:05.360 Paul Holzinger: You know, we can, update our maintainer files, I think we can reasonably be well audit GitHub permissions.
34 00:05:05.870 --> 00:05:11.080 Paul Holzinger: But… yeah, like, I don't know, everything else, the…
35 00:05:11.300 --> 00:05:16.289 Paul Holzinger: Podman.io mailing list has different logins, with different people having access.
36 00:05:17.090 --> 00:05:23.920 Paul Holzinger: The block is different, the… we got a CNCF Oracle Cloud account, which…
37 00:05:24.210 --> 00:05:28.109 Paul Holzinger: I guess it's also just personal accounts and some email you have.
38 00:05:28.520 --> 00:05:29.830 Paul Holzinger: for, like…
39 00:05:30.400 --> 00:05:42.180 Paul Holzinger: I mean, adding people that need access is always easy. It's remembering to kick people out when they no longer should have access. That's more the concern, I guess.
40 00:05:49.610 --> 00:05:53.480 Mohan Boddu (Red Hat LLC): Is there a way that we can maintain a single source of truth?
41 00:05:53.820 --> 00:06:01.860 Mohan Boddu (Red Hat LLC): But… Kind of, like, runs every day to update all the access controls.
42 00:06:05.020 --> 00:06:16.279 Miloslav Trmac (Red Hat LLC): I think the traditional solution is to use OAuth and single sign-on everywhere, but then accepting OAuth is an enterprise feature that might not be available to us.
43 00:06:23.660 --> 00:06:30.760 Paul Holzinger: Yeah, I mean, the single sign-on would definitely be lovely, but the next problem would be even convincing the various
44 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:32.390 Paul Holzinger: Holy crap.
45 00:06:32.390 --> 00:06:34.890 Miloslav Trmac (Red Hat LLC): Who lost that in the first place, right?
46 00:06:36.710 --> 00:06:47.300 Paul Holzinger: Yeah, I mean, so Podman I.O. mailing list, that's another thing, is, as far as I know, this is still hosted by the OSPO, by the Red Hat OSPO, this is not something CNCF.
47 00:06:47.710 --> 00:06:48.760 Paul Holzinger: owned.
48 00:06:49.380 --> 00:06:57.280 Paul Holzinger: And that's just, what is this, mailman tree, or whatever that's running? I don't know.
49 00:06:58.280 --> 00:06:59.400 Paul Holzinger: And…
50 00:06:59.960 --> 00:07:06.510 Paul Holzinger: I don't know, there's probably something that could be done for something like that, but yeah, there's so many random… like, I'm…
51 00:07:07.150 --> 00:07:24.369 Paul Holzinger: We can definitely try to automate some stuff, if they have APIs for, like, the off stuff, but yeah, it's just, like, a general problem of, like, anything. Like, if you think further, there's a read the docs page for docs.potment.io. How do we make sure that people have access to that?
52 00:07:24.610 --> 00:07:34.410 Paul Holzinger: I have, Brent has, and when I had to make a change this week, I saw, like, for example, we have Wagashi there, who had the exercise, which…
53 00:07:34.760 --> 00:07:42.899 Paul Holzinger: She had, because she was a maintainer, but, like, 3 years ago, not anymore, so, like, how do we, you know, remember?
54 00:07:44.410 --> 00:07:50.030 Paul Holzinger: or even start knowing where we have all these tokens, I think that's the first thing, like, I don't know.
55 00:07:50.390 --> 00:07:57.859 Paul Holzinger: There's probably a lot of things that we don't remember, even, that people might… eat stuff from.
56 00:07:59.740 --> 00:08:06.529 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I mean, Dan is still… basically has access to everything, I think, right? So we could probably…
57 00:08:06.770 --> 00:08:13.499 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I don't… he's still technically a builder maintainer, but he's not active enough to have access to most of this stuff anymore, so we can also…
58 00:08:13.930 --> 00:08:28.319 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Yeah, I think an audit… I mean, would the first step here just be an audit of the stuff that we actually have? I don't think we have a conclusive list anywhere of all the stuff that we actually maintain for the project.
59 00:08:30.550 --> 00:08:35.710 Paul Holzinger: Yeah, I think that's the first thing, just figuring out What?
60 00:08:35.900 --> 00:08:39.890 Paul Holzinger: Kind of things we own as a collective project, and…
61 00:08:40.289 --> 00:08:48.929 Paul Holzinger: then checking how the authentication systems work, I guess, and who has access. Like, another thing is, that I haven't mentioned yet.
62 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:54.680 Paul Holzinger: our community channels, like, we have a Matrix channel, there's a Discord server.
63 00:08:54.850 --> 00:08:59.080 Paul Holzinger: But, you know, like, there's a lot of things, basically.
64 00:09:01.370 --> 00:09:10.609 Paul Holzinger: And, for example, I think everybody should have at least, like, moderator access to these channels. Like, if somebody is doing stupid stuff there, they should be able to then…
65 00:09:10.910 --> 00:09:13.150 Paul Holzinger: people, right? Like, I mean, we get a lot of
66 00:09:14.010 --> 00:09:20.749 Paul Holzinger: Yeah, the usual spam, what you get in these channels, like, it would be nice if everybody has the ability to remove those, if,
67 00:09:20.940 --> 00:09:29.949 Paul Holzinger: people with access are not around, because the current list is definitely smaller than the list of all the possible maintainers in all repos, I think.
68 00:09:36.300 --> 00:09:53.699 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): So, it does sound like our first step is, just do an audit of things that we own, so we can produce a list of that, and then from there, we can extend auditing permissions on everything, and then from there, we can extend even further to… maybe there's a way to have a single source of truth.
69 00:09:53.900 --> 00:10:03.089 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Does anyone want to own this work, at least the first step of figuring out the stuff that we are… that is associated with the project, and ideally making a list of it?
70 00:10:05.400 --> 00:10:06.899 Paul Holzinger: I, I can take that.
71 00:10:07.790 --> 00:10:09.489 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Okay. Thank you, Paul.
72 00:10:11.580 --> 00:10:13.510 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): All right.
73 00:10:13.510 --> 00:10:16.379 Miloslav Trmac (Red Hat LLC): Yes, we can keep the address reasonably private.
74 00:10:19.800 --> 00:10:24.229 Miloslav Trmac (Red Hat LLC): Probably not worth worrying right now, but eventually there might be weak links there.
75 00:10:26.790 --> 00:10:28.560 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I mean, we have…
76 00:10:29.400 --> 00:10:41.139 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Topic 2 was going to be, creating a GitHub repository for all of our public content, that being stuff like the governance and, maintainer lists.
77 00:10:41.390 --> 00:10:57.490 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): But that would not be a private place, that would be completely public. I don't know. Maybe we can ask the CNCF if we can have an internal repo that we can… or a private repo, rather, on GitHub, that we can access control to just maintainers.
78 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:09.859 Paul Holzinger: like, creating private repos, that's possible, like, I mean, you are owners, you, like, I don't think there's any restriction,
79 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:14.400 Paul Holzinger: from the, like, GNCF org thing.
80 00:11:15.310 --> 00:11:18.840 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Okay Alright, in that case, yeah.
81 00:11:19.060 --> 00:11:23.369 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I would vote that we just make a private repo, and we store all details there.
82 00:11:26.780 --> 00:11:32.510 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): All right, anything more on this? Otherwise, we have a fairly full agenda, so I'd like to keep it moving.
83 00:11:34.900 --> 00:11:45.959 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Okay, with Brent actually available right now, let's go on to what was supposed to be our first topic, that being, the incubation application.
84 00:11:46.280 --> 00:12:01.819 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): So, last time we met, we agreed that there would be no move to incubation without having a vote of the core maintainers. However, we became aware last week that an incubation application was filed.
85 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:17.570 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I don't think that we are prepared right now for this. We don't have enough adopters for the project listed. We don't have enough maintainers, who are not Red Hat. Like, we've only just acquired our first non-Red Hat maintainer.
86 00:12:17.980 --> 00:12:34.559 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): This application was a surprise to, I think, everyone in this room. There was no core maintainer vote, no notification even to the core maintainers. It was filed using the wrong template, and because of that, the CNCF will reject it if it keeps going.
87 00:12:34.800 --> 00:12:38.669 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): And I think that that would have potential negative implications for the project.
88 00:12:39.230 --> 00:12:46.329 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): So, based on all of these things, I move that, we have a core maintainer vote to
89 00:12:46.450 --> 00:12:52.859 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Stop this application and basically formally say we are withdrawing until we feel like we are actually ready.
90 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.010 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Anyone object to this?
91 00:13:03.580 --> 00:13:08.580 Paul Holzinger: Yeah, I… I posted the link for those who haven't seen it yet. The…
92 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:14.179 Paul Holzinger: My biggest problem is, yeah, like you said, there was no vote on it, no communication, and…
93 00:13:14.460 --> 00:13:21.650 Paul Holzinger: if I look at this, like, the even bigger problem is, like, the information provided is just false, like,
94 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:24.529 Paul Holzinger: That's the… that's the biggest problem.
95 00:13:26.580 --> 00:13:29.480 Paul Holzinger: So… Yeah.
96 00:13:31.020 --> 00:13:37.690 Paul Holzinger: I don't know, yeah, like, sub-projects listed, like Seamrun, for example, or Podman Desktop, like, this is not…
97 00:13:38.740 --> 00:13:42.510 Paul Holzinger: They are definitely not sub-projects from us, like, this is just…
98 00:13:43.940 --> 00:13:47.659 Paul Holzinger: Yeah, needs to be withdrawn, basically, based on that alone.
99 00:13:48.830 --> 00:13:58.350 brent: Am I correct that we actually documented that the submission, when done, would need to be run by this group?
100 00:13:58.480 --> 00:13:59.060 brent: And the.
101 00:13:59.060 --> 00:13:59.520 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Yes.
102 00:13:59.520 --> 00:14:03.560 brent: All need to be in… a majority would need to be in favor in order to proceed.
103 00:14:04.770 --> 00:14:15.220 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Last time, we agreed as a group that a vote would be required to advance this. No vote was taken, and that decision was documented and posted to the repo.
104 00:14:15.380 --> 00:14:19.250 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): And relevant parties should have been in the meeting regardless, so they should have heard it.
105 00:14:24.060 --> 00:14:26.010 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Alright,
106 00:14:27.180 --> 00:14:42.859 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I don't think we need to do a voice vote here, but any objections, speak now or forever hold your peace, and if there are no objections, I will go ahead and request after the meeting that the CNCF, close this application, as we don't feel it's ready yet.
107 00:14:49.270 --> 00:14:54.869 Paul Holzinger: Do you need… should we comment on the public issue? Or…
108 00:14:55.600 --> 00:15:05.559 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): If everyone is comfortable, that would be ideal. Like, I can… I can say that the core maintainers have come to a decision, and if everyone would be willing to comment after that, that'd be great.
109 00:15:07.690 --> 00:15:11.860 Paul Holzinger: Yeah, because otherwise you have the same problem, it's just one person saying something. Yeah.
110 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:30.380 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I mean, we are recording this meeting, and we will have a transcript. I set the auto-transcription to on, so we can just post the transcript to the Podman repo after this happens, like we've been trying to do for the other core maintainers meeting, so we will have a record, but yeah, it would be best if we put it all in writing as well.
111 00:15:36.570 --> 00:15:45.929 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Okay, I think that addresses that. Any final bits on this? Otherwise, we have… Plenty more to discuss.
112 00:15:48.850 --> 00:15:52.320 Ashley Cui (Red Hat LLC): When you do that, can you link where to comment, or…
113 00:15:54.590 --> 00:16:00.159 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I'll throw a link in Podman Dev when I do, how about that?
114 00:16:00.160 --> 00:16:01.050 Ashley Cui (Red Hat LLC): Okay, sure.
115 00:16:04.170 --> 00:16:06.959 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Okay, let's see…
116 00:16:07.820 --> 00:16:16.209 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Next up would be, shared documentation repo. So, Brent raised this a while back, but he recently…
117 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:20.969 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): actually went ahead and made a GitHub discussion about it, which…
118 00:16:21.130 --> 00:16:23.639 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Or what's the discussion or issue? It doesn't really matter.
119 00:16:23.750 --> 00:16:32.390 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): So, basically the idea here is we should have a separate GitHub repo under Podman Container Tools, which will host
120 00:16:32.390 --> 00:16:50.609 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): a lot of the stuff that lives in Podman right now, that being the governance, the code of conduct, the security policy, how common used to be in the containers repo? Because we've sort of promoted Podman to being the top-level repo of the entire org, which it really shouldn't be.
121 00:16:50.930 --> 00:17:05.600 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): This is basically gonna be an entry point for people just finding things about us, and it could also make things a lot simpler, because it'll be a low-traffic repo, and people who just want to subscribe to governance issues can just subscribe to governance issues.
122 00:17:06.190 --> 00:17:09.170 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Any thoughts or objections about this?
123 00:17:14.430 --> 00:17:17.190 Paul Holzinger: Yeah, I would say it's maybe used it a bit…
124 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:22.370 Paul Holzinger: More for some non-governance stuff, like… yeah, start a…
125 00:17:22.619 --> 00:17:27.979 Paul Holzinger: Kind of shared documentation with the… General contribution thing, like…
126 00:17:29.230 --> 00:17:32.270 Paul Holzinger: Commit formats, and stuff like that.
127 00:17:32.420 --> 00:17:34.409 Paul Holzinger: Which are noted in the issue, I think.
128 00:17:34.570 --> 00:17:38.000 Paul Holzinger: Those could live in the same repo, it's probably easier.
129 00:17:39.690 --> 00:17:44.300 Paul Holzinger: To have, like, one sample thing there instead of yet another thing.
130 00:18:02.760 --> 00:18:11.570 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Okay, it sounds like we all agree this is a good idea. Anyone want to take this one on? Brent, I know you were talking about potentially doing it, would you be willing?
131 00:18:16.620 --> 00:18:17.670 brent: Can you hear me now?
132 00:18:18.090 --> 00:18:19.240 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Yeah, we can hear you.
133 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:24.820 brent: Okay, I… this thing doesn't tell me whether I'm on mute or not, it just clicks.
134 00:18:25.670 --> 00:18:32.479 brent: I wanted to sort of see if anyone else wanted to do it. If not, I can be the default assignee.
135 00:18:33.220 --> 00:18:40.900 brent: I think we need to determine what it's called as a group before, you know, I can actually start creating it, but…
136 00:18:41.180 --> 00:18:46.970 brent: Given that I have, org privileges and whatnot, it probably makes sense.
137 00:18:49.850 --> 00:18:53.800 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): At the very least, you can make the repo, and then someone else can populate it.
138 00:18:54.380 --> 00:18:56.640 Mohan Boddu (Red Hat LLC): I was about to say, if you can,
139 00:18:57.390 --> 00:19:03.579 Mohan Boddu (Red Hat LLC): create the repo, or if one of the core maintainers can create the repo, I can populate the contents.
140 00:19:05.590 --> 00:19:15.829 Mohan Boddu (Red Hat LLC): I mean… Perfect. Somewhere it said, like, it's core maintainers in the issue, so as long as it's okay coming from a community manager, I'm more than happy to take it.
141 00:19:16.460 --> 00:19:21.070 brent: Yeah, I'll work with you then, Mohan. It's… if you're agreeable, then…
142 00:19:21.170 --> 00:19:30.849 brent: Matt, we've got our assignees. If anyone has a brilliant suggestion for a repo name, I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, I'll probably start a
143 00:19:31.670 --> 00:19:35.980 brent: discussion on Podman like we did with, OrgName.
144 00:19:36.670 --> 00:19:37.540 Laura Santamaria (Red Hat): So…
145 00:19:37.730 --> 00:19:48.070 Laura Santamaria (Red Hat): I'll just chime in here and say that it's a very common pattern to use the community name. I commented on the issue as well.
146 00:19:48.320 --> 00:20:00.680 Laura Santamaria (Red Hat): we'll see this in a bunch of different places. If you would like to see some of the commands I used to start doing it for the Bootsy group, we're doing the same thing for them. So, happy to share, what we're doing there as,
147 00:20:00.930 --> 00:20:04.139 Laura Santamaria (Red Hat): We collect information in one place for them as well.
148 00:20:04.670 --> 00:20:07.249 Laura Santamaria (Red Hat): So, but I would recommend just calling it community.
149 00:20:08.790 --> 00:20:13.519 brent: Perfect. I'm agreeable to that. Does anyone object? Otherwise, we can run with that.
150 00:20:14.840 --> 00:20:15.980 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Sounds good to me.
151 00:20:17.340 --> 00:20:18.839 brent: That was Laura, thank you.
152 00:20:19.930 --> 00:20:20.800 Laura Santamaria (Red Hat): It was.
153 00:20:22.110 --> 00:20:22.820 brent: Thank you.
154 00:20:23.420 --> 00:20:26.650 Ashley Cui (Red Hat LLC): Yep, and I'm also happy to help if you need, anything.
155 00:20:27.290 --> 00:20:29.350 brent: Okay, I'll huddle us together.
156 00:20:32.100 --> 00:20:36.600 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Alright, sounds good. We have assignees for that. Thank you, everyone.
157 00:20:38.540 --> 00:20:49.269 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): All right, anything else on this? Otherwise, we can move on to moving the remaining repos into the, what do you call it, CNCF work. So, we had…
158 00:20:49.270 --> 00:20:57.359 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Last time we agreed we were going to move a bunch of stuff in. We are, I would say, about halfway done. Everything that needed CI got moved in.
159 00:20:57.360 --> 00:21:09.580 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): But we did not yet get to some of the important ones. Podman.io, Build.io, so both the websites, Automation Images, or not Automation, sorry, Image Build.
160 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:15.760 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): ImageBuild has a PR opens, but it needs comments. Let me find a link for that one.
161 00:21:16.080 --> 00:21:23.839 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): And I am probably forgetting a few. Anyone remember the other ones that were supposed to move in, besides the websites?
162 00:21:27.040 --> 00:21:33.890 Paul Holzinger: There's a small one, go.podman.io, for the… Like, Go imports.
163 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:42.829 Paul Holzinger: And… Yeah, I think only the website and the image grid right now.
164 00:21:43.890 --> 00:21:46.109 Paul Holzinger: Don't think we need others at the moment.
165 00:21:47.860 --> 00:21:48.640 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Okay.
166 00:21:49.740 --> 00:21:55.379 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I can probably continue to take the lead on these, if people don't mind.
167 00:21:55.630 --> 00:22:02.579 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I think I've got the process down now, and it doesn't take much besides poking people. Tom, sorry.
168 00:22:03.150 --> 00:22:07.659 Tom Sweeney (Red Hat LLC): Do we have any requirements with CNCF before we start stashing stuff in there?
169 00:22:09.250 --> 00:22:13.790 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I think we're fine as long as it matches the license, and…
170 00:22:14.060 --> 00:22:24.570 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): as long as it… the process we set up says it has to be fundamentally related to Podman, it has to match license, it has to match governance, and it has to be,
171 00:22:24.740 --> 00:22:32.130 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): well-maintained and well-written project. I think that's the broad guidance we left ourselves.
172 00:22:33.570 --> 00:22:36.569 Paul Holzinger: And it needs to be voted in by the core maintainers.
173 00:22:37.070 --> 00:22:38.119 Paul Holzinger: Yeah, that's fine.
174 00:22:39.820 --> 00:22:42.120 Tom Sweeney (Red Hat LLC): Have we officially voted for these guys?
175 00:22:42.770 --> 00:22:44.750 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Not yet, that would be part of the move.
176 00:22:44.750 --> 00:22:45.340 Tom Sweeney (Red Hat LLC): Okay.
177 00:22:47.860 --> 00:22:49.400 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Mohan.
178 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:57.490 Mohan Boddu (Red Hat LLC): Yeah, Matt, you and I kind of discussed about this after I came back from the PTO, like, thinking of network and artwork, so,
179 00:22:58.310 --> 00:23:03.970 Mohan Boddu (Red Hat LLC): I know we thought, like, it's better to merge them before moving here.
180 00:23:04.220 --> 00:23:08.720 Mohan Boddu (Red Hat LLC): Just wanted to bring it up if it is still the plan, or… I know we haven't…
181 00:23:09.610 --> 00:23:13.850 Mohan Boddu (Red Hat LLC): Formally brought it up to the team or anything, it's just a random discussion we had.
182 00:23:14.140 --> 00:23:16.230 Mohan Boddu (Red Hat LLC): I just want to bring it up here as well.
183 00:23:17.340 --> 00:23:29.260 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I think it's a good idea. I do… I would wait until we merge the repos. It seems like it'd be extra effort to put two of them in, and then take it down to one at some later point when we merge them, so…
184 00:23:33.050 --> 00:23:39.749 Paul Holzinger: I don't mind that much, but I don't really see a reason why they need to be moved at the moment.
185 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:46.299 brent: And I am not in favor of doing that. I've been… I've been on the record about that.
186 00:23:50.130 --> 00:23:50.780 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Alright.
187 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:53.460 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Let's hold off on those until we have…
188 00:23:53.580 --> 00:23:56.670 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): What do you call it? A better idea of what's going on, then.
189 00:24:00.620 --> 00:24:09.120 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Okay, anything else on repo moves? Otherwise, I believe we have… One more topic.
190 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:22.229 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Audit of maintainer files. So it is about time for our quarterly audit of who's actually an active maintainer, and maybe we should move some of these people, out.
191 00:24:22.510 --> 00:24:36.290 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Anyone want to volunteer to go through the maintainer files and propose anyone who's inactive for either removal or reduction to a more suitable role?
192 00:24:48.270 --> 00:24:52.010 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I am willing to take this if no one else wants it, but .
193 00:24:57.620 --> 00:24:58.250 brent: I don't think you're…
194 00:24:58.250 --> 00:24:58.589 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): figure it out.
195 00:24:58.590 --> 00:24:59.300 brent: argument.
196 00:25:01.490 --> 00:25:11.929 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): All right, through the astounding confidence of the core maintainers, I have been voted in to examine all of our repos and propose some folks for removal.
197 00:25:12.170 --> 00:25:16.329 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): If they are not at… no longer active maintainers, I should say.
198 00:25:17.750 --> 00:25:24.940 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Alright, that was the last topic I had on the agenda. Anyone else have anything they'd like to discuss?
199 00:25:34.130 --> 00:25:36.779 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): I'm hearing a whole lot of nothing. Alright.
200 00:25:36.890 --> 00:25:40.560 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Thank you everyone for attending.
201 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:54.860 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Once this is done, I will try and figure out how to get the transcript and post the, what do you call it? Post the minutes to the Podman repo, which eventually this should all move into the community repo, but oh well, we can do that later.
202 00:25:54.970 --> 00:26:00.109 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Anyways, thank you everyone for attending, and I will see y'all later.
203 00:26:00.790 --> 00:26:01.739 Matthew Heon (Red Hat LLC): Bye, folks.
204 00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:05.160 Mohan Boddu (Red Hat LLC): Bye, Al.